The following is a suggested upgrade path as put out by Mike at Road/Race Engineering.
PLEASE NOTE that all prices are current as of 10/20/99, but
they can change at any moment, so do not take them as gospel. They
are a general guide only, to give you an idea of roughly how much
the mods will cost.
| This is the upgrade path that we recommend for the second generation Eclipse/Talon. Here is the current list and prices. There is a reason that we are using the parts listed here - they work. They have not been chosen because they are in style or fresh, just proven. If you build an "all GReddy" or "all HKS" Eclipse, or if you want a Blitz BOV just because everyone else has a GReddy, your performance will suffer. |
| Mike W |
| ITEM | Nicer Choice | Cost | Budget Choice | Cost | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Air filter | Injen
Intake System, Includes
polished intake pipe to turbo |
$225 | K&N
Aircharger
Injen Filter Kit |
$95 $75 |
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| Install Air filter and remove the Boost Control Solenoid restrictor, which raises boost 2-3 psi, and remove the BOV dump tube (more air flow into turbo) | $30 labor | ||||
| Exhaust | Apex RS Series
AWD or FWD (uses same down pipe adapter syetem as RSR) |
$490 |
Muffler shop 2 1/2" - 1 resonator, straight thru muffler, simple tip, mandrel bent | $250-400 | |
| Install exhaust | $20 labor | ||||
| Free Mods | Remove
Boost Control Solenoid Restrictor
Remove BOV dump tube inside turbo inlet hose Open up I/C inlet (95-96) (Pic) Bigger vent in the wheel well behind the I/C (Pic( Advanced:
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| Upper IC piping and BOV | Greddy upper and lower pipe kit w/GReddy BOV | $425 | Cheaper: RRE upper pipe w/GReddy BOV
Cheapest: RRE upper pipe w/your 1G used BOV |
$295 $95 |
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| Install I/C pipe kit and BOV '95-'97
'98-99 AWD |
$30 labor $50 labor |
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Next you need a turbo that can actually make some boost, but most people
will spend some money on other stuff first. A turbo is more money but will
make more of a difference dollar for dollar. The following is a list of
things you don't really need without a turbo, but if you get them you will
be laying the ground work for the turbo.
| ITEM | Nicer Choice | Cost | Budget Choice | Cost | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Boost controller | GReddy Profec-B | $350 | RRE Manual Boost Control | $60 | |
| Install Prices:
Controller only VDO 52mm mechanical boost gauge GReddy Electronic (non peak hold) 52mm boost gauge GReddy Electronic peak/hold 60mm boost gauge A-Pillar Mounting Pod and labor |
$40 $55 $140 $210 $70 |
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| Spark Plugs and Wires | Magnecor 8.5mm wires
NGK BP7ES plugs |
$79
$10/set |
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| Install plugs and wires | $10 labor | ||||
| Fuel Pump | Denso In-Tank 150 lph | $165 | |||
| Install AWD
FWD |
$40 labor $25 labor |
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| 1G Throttle Body | Used 1G TB (91-94) | $100-200 | |||
| Install, port match 2G intake to match TB, and adjust TPS | $75 labor | ||||
| Exhaust Gas Temperature Gauge | GReddy Electronic Peak/Hold 60mm | $225 | GReddy Electronic 52mm | $165 | |
| Install EGT
Install probe only |
$75 labor $25 labor |
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| Downpipe | RRE (RSR/Apex Style) 3" Steel Install |
$220 $40 |
RRE 2 1/2" Install |
$180 $40 |
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| High Flow cat | 3" | $150 | 2 1/2" | $150 | |
| Install | $25 labor | ||||
OK, now you really need a turbo. With the turbos up to
the the 18-G, you can keep the boost down and need only an upgraded fuel
pump. To run over 15-16 psi boost on pump gas safely, you
will need more fuel. Even at 13-14 psi, these turbos will all blow away
the T-"Too Small" Garrett at 16 psi.
| ITEM | Description | Cost |
|---|---|---|
| Ultra Budget Turbo | TDO5-14b-6cm (1G stock turbo)
|
($free-$300) plus $675 |
For use on 14B and 16G turbos (Consists of 2 1/4" lower I/C pipe, 7cm gasket, 2 1/2" DP gasket, SS oil supply line kit, oil drain gasket) |
$195 | |
| Stealth | T28 Conversion
Turbo only. |
$825 |
|
About $1250 | |
| A Little more power | TDO5-16G-7cm
|
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16G Turbo and srtipped down Tweaker Kit 16G Turbo and Full Bonehead proof kit 16G Turbo installed with tax, everything ported, install parts, 2 1/4" lower IC pipe, gaskets,etc. The kit includes the HD SS 7cm gasket and the RRE SS oil supply line. |
$590
$785 $915 $1350 |
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| Money not a problem and California emissions legal | GReddy/Mitsubishi TDO5-18G-8cm Turbo and Kit only Installed with tax, everything ported, large turbo inlet pipe, etc. |
$1750 $2150 |
| Frankenstein | Mitsubishi TDO6 cartridge and exhaust
wheel
Price includes 10 degree clip and weld on 90 degree outlet elbow. Turbo only
|
$1250 $300+ |
| External Wastegate | An external waste gate may be required to
control the boost if you are using one of the larger upgrade turbos, especially
if you are running with no catalytic converter at "the track". We recommend
Tial wastegates.
Wastegate only Install is custom |
$425-540 $200+ |
OK, now your clutch is slipping pretty bad.
| Clutch | Good: ACT 2100lb with the street disc Excellent All Around: Center Force 2500lb Ball Bearing Dual Friction Best but Strong Left Leg: ACT 2600lb with the street disc (all prices include a factory T/O bearing) Lighten flywheel and resurface (exchange) Install AWD Install FWD Stainless Steel Clutch Hydraulic Line |
$325 $375 $395 $125 $250 $225 $ 25 |
To take full advantage of all the air flow that you now have, you need
more fuel and the ability to control it.
| Air | Larger
2 1/4" Turbo Inlet pipe
Injen Polished Turbo Intake Pipe |
$45 $170 |
| Fuel | Apexi Super
AFC
This allows you to modify the signal from the MAS (air flow meter) to the ECU to help trick the ECU so that you can lean things out to make up for larger fuel injectors. The AFC will also help compensate for removed honeycombs to make for a smooth idle. With the stock injectors (450cc/min) running out of capacity at
New style AFC
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$350 $325 $450 $450 $450 |
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| Intercooler | Front Mount Intercooler GReddy Kit GReddy Kit and install |
$875 $1100 |
| Cams | Web Cams - 264 intake and 272 Exhaust cams Lumpy Idle, Big power Install cams |
$425 $125 |
With proper tuning, race gas, and driving like a man possessed, the
above parts are good for 11.96@115 mph with a 16G turbo and 11.8@118 on
a GReddy 18G so far (proven at the track). Both cars were full weight and
with stock 2G intake manifolds and stock 2G cylinder heads.
| 2G Head | Port 2G Cylinder Head Remove and install head |
$300-up $500 |
| Head swap | Head
Swap to 1G Head (bigger than the 2G head to start with) Labor Plus parts Plus porting Plus valve job |
$900 $400-800 $300+ $200+ |
| Intake | Extrude Hone 2G Intake Manifold (exchange) Remove and install |
$325 $150 |
| Ignition | MSD Digital DIS-2 (Pic) Install |
$325 $80 |
| Timing | Apex ITC Timing computer This will make your pistons turn to goo and flow out the exhaust ports and mess up your turbo if you don't know what you are doing. Install ITC |
$325 $50 |
Prices good as of 10/20/99. Prices are subject to change without notice.
Install prices are for local customers only. Prices may vary if your car
is a star in the Dope Show. $100 charge for every time your alarm goes
off unless we can cut the wires and stomp on it ;-)
No honda owners were actually humiliated during the writing of this price list.
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